Don't be an idiot. Everyone knows the atrocities this guy has committed. Dictators rule on pride and lust for power. The US isn't the one who printed the photos first, that would be Britain, land of the tabloids. This is the ultimate justice. The opposite of pride is humility. These photos show the world that he is just a man. They have stripped him of that pride and power which he so wrongfully took (because of the US obsession with Communists, might I add, which caused our government to support him.)
Does he LOOK like he's hooked up to electrical wires? Has he been forced to be naked? Is there some troll next to him smiling and pointing at him? Is he in a pile with other naked bodies? Does it look like he's had objects rammed up his ass?
Actually, I think the probability that these things happened is nearly 100%. It's that American concept of revenge. I don't condone that at all, but the question remains, what should we do with murderous bastards like him? Jail is too good for him. Do we make him an example for other dictators? Everything about this situation is gray. Do brutal dictaors fall into a different category than common foot soldiers? I'd like to see the guy subjected to hard labor until he meets the devil in hell, but I'm not sure what purpose this serves.
I honestly think this photo is justice. There isn't much you can do to a dictator. I don't condone violence at any level, but this "humiliation" strips him of that dictatorial pride. We need to get on with the trial so this situation isn't in limbo forever.
Well, I would like to think the US progressive community would condemn these photos of Saddam for the violence they inflict on him as a human being. I am sure the US would not like this type of humiliating incident to befall any of their own troops. Where does this all lead to? More violence and more suffering!
The United States has already publicly condemned the use of these photos. I will not pretend to be outraged that a murderous dictator was humiliated in front of the world. I wish it hadn't happened, but since it has, it's too late to stop it. Of course, late night television, which has no taste anyway, could potentially inflame the situation. I recall seeing something rather disgusting on it last night on Letterman.
The monsters that kidnap our troops and innocent civilians have no conscience and will do what they want.
The irony is that he is now trying to use our democratic process to sue over the photos. I say to him, "You had thirty years, asshole, to proclaim your faith in and love for democracy!" It has come to bite him in the ass.
I guess we Canadians take human rights and the brutality of these photos more seriously than our North American neighbors. This is Abu Gharib II here in Nova Scotia. We have all thrown our hands up, but we have not given up!
Right. You think you are better for condemning the photos. I am merely stating my own personal opinion. I have not condoned the taking of these photos or the poor taste that led to their publication. I have also condemned the probable physical abuse.
I've always liked Canadian liberalism, but sometimes it gets to the point where you are not allowed to say or do anything. In trying to create freedom for all, you take away the essential freedoms of speech and press because you don't want to hurt people's feelings. Saddam's a big boy; he'll get over it.
Before you start criticizing the American gov, which I, like most of the world, do not support, maybe you should take a look at the crooks in your own gov, who were actually voted back in despite the evidence. Granted, no one is dying from their ethics violations, just as no one died from Clinton's affair. I am a staunch opponent of this administration and a strong proponent of human rights. I did not support the invasion in the first place. However, I also do not support murderous dictators. I worry that people will forget the atrocities of his rule to come to his aid over some photos.
I find it funny that you criticize my Americaness when I am such a critic of this country's culture and policies and would rather be living in Europe right now.
Criticize all you like. My government, and fellow citizens, are not responsible for the deaths of over 100k innocents in an illegal war.
Your love of human rights is undermined by mocking a prisoner of war who has not been proven guilty of anything. Just as the humiliation of women = violence, the humiliation of anyone falsely imprisoned = violence.
Half of the US is not responsible for the deaths, either. Unfortunately, our hands are tied by this administration. The Democrats are wimps, too, when it comes to standing up for anything, or at least, they had been until recently.
He is guilty as sin. Sometimes you just have to take a case for what it is. There are exceptions to all rules, and there always will be. He will be found guilty as soon as they have the trial, whenever that may be. I think a much more important issue than photos is the fact that there is no set date for a trial.
Perhaps it's just that I am growing tired of my country's continuous brutal and embarassing behavior. Believe it or not, it's tough living under an adminstration that not only does the exact opposite of what you believe is right, but does the extreme opposite that makes your blood boil. By no means, though, am I saying it's worse than living under an authoritarian regime. Maybe you're right, but sometimes taking sadistic pleasure in these types of things is like a break from the constant bombardment of policy faux pas of this administration on my brain. I thought by staying in this country after the election to work on fixing things was a good idea, but the blunders just keep coming at a seemingly more rapid rate than before, esp. now that the gops are a mess.
Thanks for the Expos. I'm having a great time this year with the Nationals just a few Metro stops away.
I think this is just as bad as the prison torture last year. When will the US ever learn?
ReplyDeleteWhatever. Does that look like a moldy prison to you? Does he look uncomfortable?
ReplyDeleteWhy were these photos taken in the first place?
My point exactly. So the US could humiliate him in front of the entire world. Has anyone ever heard of the word justice?
ReplyDeleteI guess under the Patriot Act it is guilty until proven inoccent for everyone.
Don't be an idiot. Everyone knows the atrocities this guy has committed. Dictators rule on pride and lust for power. The US isn't the one who printed the photos first, that would be Britain, land of the tabloids. This is the ultimate justice. The opposite of pride is humility. These photos show the world that he is just a man. They have stripped him of that pride and power which he so wrongfully took (because of the US obsession with Communists, might I add, which caused our government to support him.)
ReplyDeleteWell, last year this was considered a warcrime at Abu Gharib. Now you are endorsing this?!
ReplyDeleteDoes he LOOK like he's hooked up to electrical wires? Has he been forced to be naked? Is there some troll next to him smiling and pointing at him? Is he in a pile with other naked bodies? Does it look like he's had objects rammed up his ass?
ReplyDeleteThat is just it, we do not know if things have happened. It is hard to think of other progressives endorsing this type of brutality.
ReplyDeleteActually, I think the probability that these things happened is nearly 100%. It's that American concept of revenge. I don't condone that at all, but the question remains, what should we do with murderous bastards like him? Jail is too good for him. Do we make him an example for other dictators? Everything about this situation is gray. Do brutal dictaors fall into a different category than common foot soldiers? I'd like to see the guy subjected to hard labor until he meets the devil in hell, but I'm not sure what purpose this serves.
ReplyDeleteI honestly think this photo is justice. There isn't much you can do to a dictator. I don't condone violence at any level, but this "humiliation" strips him of that dictatorial pride. We need to get on with the trial so this situation isn't in limbo forever.
Well, I would like to think the US progressive community would condemn these photos of Saddam for the violence they inflict on him as a human being. I am sure the US would not like this type of humiliating incident to befall any of their own troops. Where does this all lead to? More violence and more suffering!
ReplyDeleteThe United States has already publicly condemned the use of these photos. I will not pretend to be outraged that a murderous dictator was humiliated in front of the world. I wish it hadn't happened, but since it has, it's too late to stop it. Of course, late night television, which has no taste anyway, could potentially inflame the situation. I recall seeing something rather disgusting on it last night on Letterman.
ReplyDeleteThe monsters that kidnap our troops and innocent civilians have no conscience and will do what they want.
The irony is that he is now trying to use our democratic process to sue over the photos. I say to him, "You had thirty years, asshole, to proclaim your faith in and love for democracy!" It has come to bite him in the ass.
And that's all I have to say about that.
I guess we Canadians take human rights and the brutality of these photos more seriously than our North American neighbors. This is Abu Gharib II here in Nova Scotia. We have all thrown our hands up, but we have not given up!
ReplyDeleteWe tend not to consider murderous dictators who've killed tens of thousands of people as human down here.
ReplyDeleteAmericans always think they know better than the rest of the world. I suppose you support most everything your president stands for as well.
ReplyDeleteRight. You think you are better for condemning the photos. I am merely stating my own personal opinion. I have not condoned the taking of these photos or the poor taste that led to their publication. I have also condemned the probable physical abuse.
ReplyDeleteI've always liked Canadian liberalism, but sometimes it gets to the point where you are not allowed to say or do anything. In trying to create freedom for all, you take away the essential freedoms of speech and press because you don't want to hurt people's feelings. Saddam's a big boy; he'll get over it.
Before you start criticizing the American gov, which I, like most of the world, do not support, maybe you should take a look at the crooks in your own gov, who were actually voted back in despite the evidence. Granted, no one is dying from their ethics violations, just as no one died from Clinton's affair. I am a staunch opponent of this administration and a strong proponent of human rights. I did not support the invasion in the first place. However, I also do not support murderous dictators. I worry that people will forget the atrocities of his rule to come to his aid over some photos.
I find it funny that you criticize my Americaness when I am such a critic of this country's culture and policies and would rather be living in Europe right now.
Criticize all you like. My government, and fellow citizens, are not responsible for the deaths of over 100k innocents in an illegal war.
ReplyDeleteYour love of human rights is undermined by mocking a prisoner of war who has not been proven guilty of anything. Just as the humiliation of women = violence, the humiliation of anyone falsely imprisoned = violence.
Half of the US is not responsible for the deaths, either. Unfortunately, our hands are tied by this administration. The Democrats are wimps, too, when it comes to standing up for anything, or at least, they had been until recently.
ReplyDeleteHe is guilty as sin. Sometimes you just have to take a case for what it is. There are exceptions to all rules, and there always will be. He will be found guilty as soon as they have the trial, whenever that may be. I think a much more important issue than photos is the fact that there is no set date for a trial.
Perhaps it's just that I am growing tired of my country's continuous brutal and embarassing behavior. Believe it or not, it's tough living under an adminstration that not only does the exact opposite of what you believe is right, but does the extreme opposite that makes your blood boil. By no means, though, am I saying it's worse than living under an authoritarian regime. Maybe you're right, but sometimes taking sadistic pleasure in these types of things is like a break from the constant bombardment of policy faux pas of this administration on my brain. I thought by staying in this country after the election to work on fixing things was a good idea, but the blunders just keep coming at a seemingly more rapid rate than before, esp. now that the gops are a mess.
Thanks for the Expos. I'm having a great time this year with the Nationals just a few Metro stops away.
Well, good luck. You Americans deserve what you get.
ReplyDeleteExpos? Baseball is not exactly considered a sport here.
The old Canadian inferiority complex. You should have joined the Union while you had the chance.
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